tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27760240.post7145330324161673243..comments2024-03-27T14:08:51.191-05:00Comments on American Indians in Children's Literature (AICL): Lois Lenski's INDIAN CAPTIVEDebbie Reesehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14972409006633565859noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27760240.post-81941289372442401862023-06-16T11:28:49.107-05:002023-06-16T11:28:49.107-05:00I am grateful for this website and use Debbie Rees...I am grateful for this website and use Debbie Reese's reviews to decide what books to keep and what to weed out of the classroom library I inherited as a fourth grade teacher in Madison, Wisconsin. I appreciate the review of Indian Captive, especially the warning about the objectionable "brotherly love" passage on page 174. I would like to comment, though, on the critique of Lenski's portrayal of the Senecas' fascination with Mary's blond, silky hair. My experience is personal: I had blond, silky hair as a girl, and so did my daughter, and we were both the brunt of attention from people for whom this was "foreign." For example, in the 1970s, my family went to Banff, and a group of indigenous boys followed me around the whole time yelling "Blondie, Blondie!" At my daughter's school in the early 2000s, African American schoolmates regularly asked to touch her hair and came up behind her at the drinking fountain to stroke it. In the 2000-teens, elementary students of mine reported similar things happening to them in Thailand and other Asian countries–crowds would gather, reach out to touch their hair and wanting to take pictures of them. So, I agree with the previous commenters who said that this kind of fascination with something "different" is realistically human. Lorie Raihalahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12832275584612870530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27760240.post-25408794959516206142021-05-19T12:20:48.322-05:002021-05-19T12:20:48.322-05:00I just found a copy of "Indian Captive" ...I just found a copy of "Indian Captive" on the shelf while doing some year-end clean-up, and something about it immediately tweaked my concern; I pulled it so I could come to AICL and see what might be said here about it. Newbery Honor Book or not, I'll be weeding it - and sending a link to this column to the other sites in my district that might still have it on their shelves. Thank you for being a source for good information on which titles do or do not present a fair and accurate picture of the many Nations who make up what we so often lump together as a single people. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18430351157711782093noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27760240.post-89992732694214273632019-11-03T05:39:52.388-06:002019-11-03T05:39:52.388-06:00FYI: Indian Captive (and plenty of other problemat...FYI: Indian Captive (and plenty of other problematic books) are on the Sonlight and spin-off BookShark homeschool reading lists. -Rebecca (classroom teacher)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27760240.post-23379110103698504932019-11-03T04:10:08.323-06:002019-11-03T04:10:08.323-06:00Mike--Gratz has a Seminole character in his LEAGUE...Mike--Gratz has a Seminole character in his LEAGUE OF SEVEN. I haven't read it but think I might bump it up in my reading pile.<br /><br />Debbie Reesehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14972409006633565859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27760240.post-5858218374602271662019-11-03T04:05:20.260-06:002019-11-03T04:05:20.260-06:00Thanks, Mike M, for your comment.
I'll look ...Thanks, Mike M, for your comment. <br /><br />I'll look for Gratz's book. <br /><br />--DebbieDebbie Reesehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14972409006633565859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27760240.post-62356822456648313002019-11-03T01:56:46.680-05:002019-11-03T01:56:46.680-05:00I've come to Dr. Reese's review of Indian ...I've come to Dr. Reese's review of <i>Indian Captive</i> because of its appearance in Alan Gratz's 2017 novel <i>Ban this Book</i>. Gratz's story is about a schoolgirl standing up against book-banning in her grade-school library. At one point the avid young reader is suspended and grounded with nothing to read except <i>Indian Captive</i>. There is no commentary about the merits of the book, but it is mentioned several times, giving it a prominence above many of the books named in the story -- enough to send me to investigate. I can see no particular reason why this book was chosen for its role in the story (unless it's a very subtle indication that some books are not as good as others -- but it's quite a stretch to find that interpretation), other than mere carelessness by the author, indifference to the reasons a book may be offensive, or lack of awareness of the harm that books can perpetuate -- a naive belief in the magical goodness of every written word. It seems odd considering the theme of the story. Also odd given another theme of the story: good intentions that lead to bad consequences. As adults, we can understand the complexity of the real world, and the value of ambiguity in literature, but seeing that the issues raised by this one book's inclusion is not developed at all, and this in a novel for children, I can only see it as a flaw in an otherwise worthwhile book.Mike Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03638747470635148177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27760240.post-64142300575403628752019-03-28T12:53:47.741-05:002019-03-28T12:53:47.741-05:00I agree with you. I too am from the area and I rea...I agree with you. I too am from the area and I read the book in school as a child myself. And like you I enjoyed it so much I did a lot of research on the Native American people especially the Seneca and the rest of the Iroquois tribes. Fascinating. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01075431066534951757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27760240.post-15408024338265487352017-11-04T19:39:50.938-05:002017-11-04T19:39:50.938-05:00I really appreciate this thoughtful post and all o...I really appreciate this thoughtful post and all of the comments. I have not read "Indian Captive", but given when it was written, I can imagine that even when she was trying to be sensitive, Lois Lenski's portrayal of the Seneca and Mary Jemison's experience inevitably doesn't stand up over time. I do urge readers not to dismiss Lenski's work out of hand. She displayed some pretty progressive ideals in what were called her "regional" books, dealing with racism ("Mama Hattie's Girl") and classism. If you are interested in reading a well researched biography of Lenski, check out "Lois Lenski: Storycatcher" by Bobby Malone.Suzy Grindrodnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27760240.post-10109532259990376272017-06-18T10:27:04.746-05:002017-06-18T10:27:04.746-05:00I agree that there are some stereotyping aspects a...I agree that there are some stereotyping aspects about this book, although I don't pretend to be knowledgeable about the Seneca culture or other Native American tribes. However, I disagree with those who have interpreted Lenski's description of the Senecas' fascination with Mary's blond hair as saying that whiteness or blond hair is superior. Difference and unusual coloring can be just different, not "better" or "worse". She was made to work hard, as all of the other girls in the Seneca culture were. I did not see any indication in her general treatment that Mary was set up as a superior being, nor that the white culture was believed to be superior by the Seneca. I adamantly disagree that "whiteness" was portrayed as "the epitome of beauty or mercy" as one commentator stated.<br /><br />Overall, I believe Lenski did her best to show respect for the Seneca culture and people. Mary learned many things from her captors and as we know, chose to stay with them when she had an opportunity to return to white society. She appreciated the ways that the Seneca tried to live in their environment without wasting natural resources, and that actually their raids on the homes of white settlers were a response to the impingement on Seneca patterns of life. I think it is made very evident in the story that the Seneca were just and generous with Mary. She was treated as well as other Seneca girls were treated. <br /><br />Finally, although some people have undoubtedly called Indian Captive a biography, Lois Lenski herself stated it was a novelization. Changes were made to the retelling of Mary's early captive years to make the story more accessible to children. She modified some things such as Mary's early motherhood, and no doubt Turtle Woman was a created character who was used to create some conflict in the story of Mary's adaptation to the way of life into which she was taken. I don't doubt that there were some members of the Seneca community who were welcoming, some who were not involved with Mary, and some who were antagonistic. It's been a few years since read the book and I have a vague recollection that Turtle Woman had a son or brother who was killed by white men, explaining some of her animosity to Mary. I see this as a human reaction rather than an unjustifiable stereotype of a fictional character. MaryNnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27760240.post-65204159743762580662016-04-28T10:53:45.975-05:002016-04-28T10:53:45.975-05:00I learn as much from reading Debbie's well res...I learn as much from reading Debbie's well researched and thoughtful critiques as I do from the comments section.<br /><br />Veronica, thank you.<br /><br />Different is quite often viewed as ugly. But let's say for the sake of argument that different in this case was viewed as unusual & beautiful. How long might that be so before it became ordinary? <br /><br />Further,the fact that "white" was the color of the people who were encroaching on Native lands and taking what did not belong to them by force. I doubt any society would have seen "whiteness" as the embodiment of beauty or mercy. <br /><br />Given that, the Seneca were amazingly generous and just with this child. This is an important cultural aspect that says much about the values of Native peoples from that period. It is also the lesson that appears lost in a story centered on "whiteness".<br /><br />Books that portray "whiteness" as the epitome of beauty and all things good for young readers deliver a poisoned apple. I hope teachers and librarians will reconsider having such books in their collections.<br /><br />DebraAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01570236475916110458noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27760240.post-45687513149723792192016-04-28T09:57:01.021-05:002016-04-28T09:57:01.021-05:00I adored this book as a child in the forties, and ...I adored this book as a child in the forties, and as a child with pale blond hair, privately thought of myself as "Corn Tassel". I can see the racist implications now, as a adult re-reading, but at the time I felt only a deep empathy with the Indians who took in Mary Jemison and whom she deeply loved.<br /><br />At age 11, in 1948, I moved to postwar Tokyo, and there experienced the curiosity with my blond hair. It didn't feel intrusive, not even when my hair was touched, as it occasionally was, on a public street, but rather an experience of fascination-with-the-other, some thing I felt in the reverse, myself.<br /><br />The portrayal of one Seneca woman as cruel does not, in my opinion, feel wrong. There are cruel and insensitive people in every culture and a writer works hard at creating conflict to move the narrative along. There are other instances mentioned which are indeed stereotyping and a teacher should point out those flaws to a young reader, but I would hate to see the book discarded. It is a fictionalized account of an actual set of events. Perhaps my opinion is colored by my memory of such a deep affection for the story, for Mary Jeminson, and for the Senecas.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27760240.post-49799742383683691482016-04-28T09:12:00.892-05:002016-04-28T09:12:00.892-05:00I'm pretty sure I read this in 4th grade (a ye...I'm pretty sure I read this in 4th grade (a year later I would read Anpao. Yikes) but I don't remember much about it. I do cringe every time I see it suggested as a "biography."<br /><br />The passages you quoted are very clear in that Mary, by virtue of her blondeness and whiteness, is there to make the Seneca "better" and "more civilized," which is so completely wrong and disgusting that I cannot imagine how people don't see the offensiveness here. But they just plow into it and say, "LOOK WE ARE REPRESENTING NATIVE AMERICANS YAY DIVERSITY." That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works.<br /><br />Thanks so much for this review, as always.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27760240.post-79449062553744155602016-04-27T18:37:50.822-05:002016-04-27T18:37:50.822-05:00There are a few things going on here:
1) I find i...There are a few things going on here:<br /><br />1) I find it interesting that with all these examples of the fetishization of blonde hair, not one of them is of any actual Native Americans. You can't just generalize from one group of dark-haired people to another and claim it's a natural "human" reaction. We're also talking about a group of people who would not have been saturated with Western European beauty ideals, remember, unlike people living in the Hollywood-dominated globalized cultures of today. It is just as human to find a physical characteristic with which one is not familiar to be freakish and repellant (see European assessments of black people, for instance). Adoration of blonde hair is not actually an innate human trait. Neither is adoration of difference. I have spent some time in Sweden, where I have literally met one other white woman who wasn't blonde, and no other white people with curly hair. Yet Swedes do not surround me, stroke my hair, talk about how beautiful it is, and name me after it.<br /><br />More to the point, since Jemison did not have blonde hair, and did not recount such incidents, we must wonder why this reaction to blonde hair is such a significant part of <i>Indian Captive.</i> Why create such stuff out of whole cloth? What purpose is it serving? As Rifkin notes, this is about the <i>racialization</i> of difference, the creation of <i>race</i> as the key factor in Jemison's interactions with the Seneca, rather than nationhood, sovereignty, land, etc.. And in this case, the white preoccupation with race is being put in the mouths and hands of the Seneca--classic projection--in a way that naturalizes white beauty ideals by portraying them as universal.<br /><br />2) Stoicism is not being portrayed in this book as "part of growing up." It is being portrayed as "becoming like an Indian." If it Lenski had portrayed it as a familiar value/trait of adulthood to Mary--if Mary had thought something like "Maybe this is what Pa meant when he said being adult was hard," it would not be a racist stereotype. But the stereotype of the stoic Indian, silent in the face of suffering, was old by the time Barrie used it for Tiger Lily in <i>Peter Pan</i>.<br /><br />3) A book that was singular in the 1940s and OK in the 1960s is not necessarily acceptable in the twenty-teens. There are now plenty of other books available to non-Native children to interest them in the many Native cultures of America. There's no need to continue to highlight one that is inaccurate and contains such stereotypes.<br /><br />--VeronicaUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18255579796886276754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27760240.post-84843150541659537902016-04-27T12:55:15.505-05:002016-04-27T12:55:15.505-05:00A few points to consider:
Hair: Fascination with... A few points to consider:<br /><br />Hair: Fascination with blond hair is still demonstrable today. What is different fascinates us. <br />When I taught 8th graders 20 years ago, there was a girl with long, white-blonde wavy hair. My school was 90% Hispanic, so this was unusual. The Hispanic girl who sat behind her would stare at it all the time, and would occasionally touch it lightly. The blonde girl told me after class that this made her uncomfortable, so I took the other girl aside and told her that yes, the hair is lovely, but please don't touch it.<br /><br />She told me her grandmother told her that touching blonde hair was good luck.<br /><br />In Asia, blonde tourists sometimes find themselves the center of attention. <br /><br />So this isn't a stereotype of Native Americans, it's a common HUMAN reaction to something new.<br /><br />"Indian Stoicism": In a lot of hunter-gatherer, pastoral and agrarian societies, complaining is viewed as a useless activity, so it is not encouraged. It probably wasn't encouraged much in colonial America, either. This may or may not qualify as a "stereotype," but in one aspect of children's literature, part of growing up is dealing with reality and not complaining so much. IMO, this should be encouraged by all cultures. In the book it shows that she is expanding upon her set of values and learning from others.<br /><br />Compassion for the turkey: OK, now THIS is ridiculous, and I agree wholeheartedly with your assessment!<br /> I think Lenski was trying to show children that we can all learn from each other, and all cultures have much to offer (she wrote prolifically about children from all cultures in the USA). In that mission I think she succeeded, with some obvious flaws. Remember, too, it was written in 1948--- a time of much less cultural awareness---the year New Mexico finally granted Native Americans the right to vote.<br /><br />I read this book as a child back in the 1960s, and I didn't remember the turkey thing at all. What I do remember is that it helped fuel a lifelong interest in Native Americans and made me want to learn as much as I could. I am not of direct Native ancestry that I am aware of, but in my family tree there are marriages to Algonquin and Lumbee people. The curiosity became a powerful part of my life as a person, an American, and a history teacher. <br /><br />I think this book can be used in the classroom if it is done carefully, and in the larger context of cultural respect.<br />Stereotypes and outright mistakes should be pointed out and discussed, but don't dismiss this book. It was the only one of its kind for many, many years.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27760240.post-88196363134821528192016-04-27T12:29:56.878-05:002016-04-27T12:29:56.878-05:00I teach in a school very near to where Mary Jemiso...I teach in a school very near to where Mary Jemison lived (just south of Letchworth State Park). We don't have this book in our elementary library, but we do have one in the biography section of our MS/HS library (which I plan to weed). We have a more recent book about her called "The White," which I haven't read yet. I hope it's more accurate and less full of stereotypes. Mary Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12025193047211322533noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27760240.post-11667300177325968882016-04-27T11:14:04.214-05:002016-04-27T11:14:04.214-05:00I wholeheartedly agree with your comment regarding...I wholeheartedly agree with your comment regarding the passage found on page 174: <br />"That passage is deeply unsettling. It lets stand the idea that Native peoples were cruel, aggressive, and warlike, and that the White people who attacked them and encroached on their homelands were the ones who can teach love and sympathy."<br />As we know, Natives were utilizing the right of self-defense to counter an immediate threat of violence...and to help others appreciate this viewpoint, we need more Native voices to write from this perspective as literature is rife with this flawed misconception!Carlahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11728629718113071796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27760240.post-6930076361031620822016-04-27T10:52:46.361-05:002016-04-27T10:52:46.361-05:00Another excellent review. Obviously there are some...Another excellent review. Obviously there are some very problematic passages in this book. Maybe it's time for another author to novelize this biography more accurately and sensitively.<br /><br />Just on the subject of the Seneca reaction to Molly's golden hair: I can't speak for how things are with Native peoples or were in those days, but many blondes or redheads will tell you of just this kind of experience when visiting Asia or other places where such hair is rare. And of course African people face this too, among people unfamiliar with their hair texture. <br /><br />My daughter had blonde curls when she was little. Many times we noticed tourists (Mainly Chinese) taking photographs of her. Sometimes they asked permission sometimes not. Once we were "mobbed" by a group of middle aged Chinese ladies on the ferry. Lucy was about three. They all wanted photographs with her! I didn't mind and My daughter enjoyed it. Anyway, that's definitely an experience lots of blondes have. My red haired sister got a lot of attention when she worked in China too. Gabrielle Prendergasthttp://www.angelhorn.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27760240.post-68779415185012016072016-04-27T10:37:12.897-05:002016-04-27T10:37:12.897-05:00Veronica,
Rifkin's book is terrific.
Last y...Veronica,<br /><br />Rifkin's book is terrific. <br /><br />Last year, I started doing the research on Jemison but had set it aside to work on other projects. Yesterday, I got an email from a parent in Minnesota. Her fifth grade child is being assigned INDIAN CAPTIVE and she wanted to know if I had reviewed it. Her email prompted me to upload what I did, today. Debbie Reesehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14972409006633565859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27760240.post-11985529264705930702016-04-27T10:20:04.618-05:002016-04-27T10:20:04.618-05:00Wow! I am shocked, though I guess I shouldn't ...Wow! I am shocked, though I guess I shouldn't be, to know that such a book is still in print. I had never heard of it--I only knew of captivity narratives as Early American texts that were very popular at the time they were published. <br /><br />In other news, I went to grad school with Mark Rifkin and he's a friend of mine, so I'm so happy to see his name here.<br /><br />--VeronicaUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18255579796886276754noreply@blogger.com